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		<title>By: cosmos</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Oct 2010 22:20:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;b&gt;Herald Sun Poll: 70% Support Bracken on 9/11&lt;/b&gt;
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		<title>By: Marianna</title>
		<link>http://911truthnews.com/australian-union-president-questions-911-prime-minister-responds/#comment-191</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Marianna]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Oct 2010 02:48:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[But now I have another question, John -- probably you&#039;re going to think I&#039;m very naive -- but what, actually does the Australian media have to gain by attempting to cut somebody like Bracken to shreds as they did in these two &quot;call-ins&quot; -- or to lose by humoring him?  I could understand why members of Parlaiment might do it -- not doing so would bring into question their &quot;alliance&quot; with the US, and their military investment in Afghanistan-- but the media?   Is ABC State-owned, like BBC? (Is it owned by American media giants?)  Is this treatment a standardized, uniformly agreed-upon, face-saving measure among media professionals, who (all) seem to have fallen under the spell of the official story from, well... day two or three... and now can&#039;t find a way to &quot;eat crow&quot; about it without losing all credibility with their listeners/viewers?  I remember somebody in the US Truth Movement  (I think it was Richard Gage when he was over there for the Truth Conference last summer) being accosted by a female radio host (her rude behavior later called strongly into question by listeners, and she got all snide and defensive afterwards) -- she used the same type of language, &quot;nutter&quot; language. This language, and these Austrailan put-downs, seem even more vicious than the treatment doled out to &quot;Truthers&quot; in the US by US talk-show personnel, who, granted, simply won&#039;t entertain them... the more vicious, the more defensive, I think, but why?  Why in Australia?  Maybe I just don&#039;t know enough about US/Australian relations.

Ach... I guess, at least, they&#039;re letting Bracken have his say, which is farther than some speakers get in the US...    This host seemed to go along with Bracken to the point of allowing him to have his say on nationwide radio, while bombasting like Oz against him the whole time... to protect himself &#038; to &quot;save face?&quot;  -- is this what it is?  I halfway think this is the case in the US at this point -- that saving face has something to do with some media personalities&#039; slience (that, and fearing for their lives... the threat of death by anthrax).

Best, Marianna]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But now I have another question, John &#8212; probably you&#8217;re going to think I&#8217;m very naive &#8212; but what, actually does the Australian media have to gain by attempting to cut somebody like Bracken to shreds as they did in these two &#8220;call-ins&#8221; &#8212; or to lose by humoring him?  I could understand why members of Parlaiment might do it &#8212; not doing so would bring into question their &#8220;alliance&#8221; with the US, and their military investment in Afghanistan&#8211; but the media?   Is ABC State-owned, like BBC? (Is it owned by American media giants?)  Is this treatment a standardized, uniformly agreed-upon, face-saving measure among media professionals, who (all) seem to have fallen under the spell of the official story from, well&#8230; day two or three&#8230; and now can&#8217;t find a way to &#8220;eat crow&#8221; about it without losing all credibility with their listeners/viewers?  I remember somebody in the US Truth Movement  (I think it was Richard Gage when he was over there for the Truth Conference last summer) being accosted by a female radio host (her rude behavior later called strongly into question by listeners, and she got all snide and defensive afterwards) &#8212; she used the same type of language, &#8220;nutter&#8221; language. This language, and these Austrailan put-downs, seem even more vicious than the treatment doled out to &#8220;Truthers&#8221; in the US by US talk-show personnel, who, granted, simply won&#8217;t entertain them&#8230; the more vicious, the more defensive, I think, but why?  Why in Australia?  Maybe I just don&#8217;t know enough about US/Australian relations.</p>
<p>Ach&#8230; I guess, at least, they&#8217;re letting Bracken have his say, which is farther than some speakers get in the US&#8230;    This host seemed to go along with Bracken to the point of allowing him to have his say on nationwide radio, while bombasting like Oz against him the whole time&#8230; to protect himself &amp; to &#8220;save face?&#8221;  &#8212; is this what it is?  I halfway think this is the case in the US at this point &#8212; that saving face has something to do with some media personalities&#8217; slience (that, and fearing for their lives&#8230; the threat of death by anthrax).</p>
<p>Best, Marianna</p>
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		<title>By: Marianna</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Oct 2010 01:28:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yes, this answers my question.

Thanks for the clarification, John.

Marianna]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, this answers my question.</p>
<p>Thanks for the clarification, John.</p>
<p>Marianna</p>
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		<title>By: cosmos</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Oct 2010 01:02:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;b&gt;Unionist demands right of reply over 9-11 conspiracy backlash&lt;/b&gt;

Kevin Bracken, the senior Victorian unionist who claims that the 2001 World Trade Center collapse was not caused by terrorists, called talkback again today to demand a right of reply.

Kevin Bracken made it clear that this time he was calling as a private individual, not as President of the Trades Hall Council and Secretary of the Maritime Union of Australia.

Yesterday Kevin Bracken called Jon Faine&#039;s Mornings program claiming the official story of the 9/11 attacks &#039;doesn&#039;t stand up to scientific scrutiny&#039;.

His comments attracted worldwide attention and earned rebuke from Prime Minister Gillard and the Secretary of the Trades Hall Council.

Today he attacked Jon Faine himself for dismissing his claims out-of-hand.

&quot;Unfortunately cowards like yourself have set the political agenda in this country for too long,&quot; said Kevin Bracken

He called Jon Faine a bully and challenged him to a debate on the issue.

Jon Faine refused the debate.

Kevin Bracken&#039;s initial call was in response to the Parliamentary debate on the Afghanistan war.

&quot;What we should be doing is calling for a proper investigation into the events of September 11,&quot; says Kevin Bracken.

&quot;I believe that the official story is a conspiracy theory, that doesn&#039;t stand up to scientific scrutiny,&quot; he says.

His comments were brought up in Federal Parliament during Question Time where the Prime Minister called them &#039;stupid and wrong&#039;.

http://www.abc.net.au/local/stories/2010/10/21/3044273.htm?site=melbourne

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>Unionist demands right of reply over 9-11 conspiracy backlash</b></p>
<p>Kevin Bracken, the senior Victorian unionist who claims that the 2001 World Trade Center collapse was not caused by terrorists, called talkback again today to demand a right of reply.</p>
<p>Kevin Bracken made it clear that this time he was calling as a private individual, not as President of the Trades Hall Council and Secretary of the Maritime Union of Australia.</p>
<p>Yesterday Kevin Bracken called Jon Faine&#8217;s Mornings program claiming the official story of the 9/11 attacks &#8216;doesn&#8217;t stand up to scientific scrutiny&#8217;.</p>
<p>His comments attracted worldwide attention and earned rebuke from Prime Minister Gillard and the Secretary of the Trades Hall Council.</p>
<p>Today he attacked Jon Faine himself for dismissing his claims out-of-hand.</p>
<p>&#8220;Unfortunately cowards like yourself have set the political agenda in this country for too long,&#8221; said Kevin Bracken</p>
<p>He called Jon Faine a bully and challenged him to a debate on the issue.</p>
<p>Jon Faine refused the debate.</p>
<p>Kevin Bracken&#8217;s initial call was in response to the Parliamentary debate on the Afghanistan war.</p>
<p>&#8220;What we should be doing is calling for a proper investigation into the events of September 11,&#8221; says Kevin Bracken.</p>
<p>&#8220;I believe that the official story is a conspiracy theory, that doesn&#8217;t stand up to scientific scrutiny,&#8221; he says.</p>
<p>His comments were brought up in Federal Parliament during Question Time where the Prime Minister called them &#8216;stupid and wrong&#8217;.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.abc.net.au/local/stories/2010/10/21/3044273.htm?site=melbourne" rel="nofollow">http://www.abc.net.au/local/stories/2010/10/21/3044273.htm?site=melbourne</a></p>
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		<title>By: John Bursill</title>
		<link>http://911truthnews.com/australian-union-president-questions-911-prime-minister-responds/#comment-188</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[John Bursill]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Oct 2010 08:32:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hello Marianna,

The VTHC assists in state wide union matters in Victoria, Australia&#039;s second biggest state. The council represents all union&#039;s within the state as required.

There definitely would be building professionals within the unions of Victoria but the idea of them pushing this issue to the unions would be unlikely, especially as it is highly controversial. It&#039;s more the unions come to the VTHC for help. I hope that answers your question?

Kevin was exposed early on to LC2nd Edition and other films which he showed at the trades hall. He became known to me in late 2007 and he attended our first conference in 2008 just before he moved the motion at the Trades Hall Council. After seeing Dr Legge&#039;s work, hearing Dr Bowman and meeting with MP Yukihisa Fujita he felt comfortable to push the agenda at the Trades Hall. This is my understanding.

Kevin and I are friends and we are in regular contact.

Regards John]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello Marianna,</p>
<p>The VTHC assists in state wide union matters in Victoria, Australia&#8217;s second biggest state. The council represents all union&#8217;s within the state as required.</p>
<p>There definitely would be building professionals within the unions of Victoria but the idea of them pushing this issue to the unions would be unlikely, especially as it is highly controversial. It&#8217;s more the unions come to the VTHC for help. I hope that answers your question?</p>
<p>Kevin was exposed early on to LC2nd Edition and other films which he showed at the trades hall. He became known to me in late 2007 and he attended our first conference in 2008 just before he moved the motion at the Trades Hall Council. After seeing Dr Legge&#8217;s work, hearing Dr Bowman and meeting with MP Yukihisa Fujita he felt comfortable to push the agenda at the Trades Hall. This is my understanding.</p>
<p>Kevin and I are friends and we are in regular contact.</p>
<p>Regards John</p>
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		<title>By: Marianna</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Oct 2010 01:50:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[John: I&#039;m curious about whom the Victorian Trades Hall Council represents -- would some of these members be architecture &#038; engineering professionals?  After reading this post, I wondered how this particular group came to speak out so early and knowledgably in favor of an independent investigation.  Who are they?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John: I&#8217;m curious about whom the Victorian Trades Hall Council represents &#8212; would some of these members be architecture &amp; engineering professionals?  After reading this post, I wondered how this particular group came to speak out so early and knowledgably in favor of an independent investigation.  Who are they?</p>
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		<title>By: John Bursill</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[John Bursill]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Oct 2010 01:04:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hello all,

For the record on the 28th of March 2008 the Victorian Trades Hall Council passed this motion after lengthy debate supporting a thorough and independent inquiry of the terrorist attacks on 9/11. From the minutes of the meeting on the 28th of March 2008;

“That this meeting of VTHC Executive Council calls for a thorough, independent enquiry into the tragic terrorist attacks of September 11.

The events of that day have been used to start pre-emptive wars “that will not end in our lifetime”.  They have been used to attack civil liberties and legal principles that have been the cornerstone of civilized communities.

There is an urgent need to reassess the way we view the world after September 11 and we call for proper investigation into the events around that day.”

While I agree that they have not officially supported any theory around the events of 9/11 they do agree a new investigation is warranted!

It might be prudent to remind the VTHC and the media of this fact!

Victorian Trades Hall Council

Telephone: (03) 9659 3511
Fax: (03) 9663 2127
Email: hatkinson@vthc.org.au


Kind regards John Bursill - Australian 9/11 Truth Movement]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello all,</p>
<p>For the record on the 28th of March 2008 the Victorian Trades Hall Council passed this motion after lengthy debate supporting a thorough and independent inquiry of the terrorist attacks on 9/11. From the minutes of the meeting on the 28th of March 2008;</p>
<p>“That this meeting of VTHC Executive Council calls for a thorough, independent enquiry into the tragic terrorist attacks of September 11.</p>
<p>The events of that day have been used to start pre-emptive wars “that will not end in our lifetime”.  They have been used to attack civil liberties and legal principles that have been the cornerstone of civilized communities.</p>
<p>There is an urgent need to reassess the way we view the world after September 11 and we call for proper investigation into the events around that day.”</p>
<p>While I agree that they have not officially supported any theory around the events of 9/11 they do agree a new investigation is warranted!</p>
<p>It might be prudent to remind the VTHC and the media of this fact!</p>
<p>Victorian Trades Hall Council</p>
<p>Telephone: (03) 9659 3511<br />
Fax: (03) 9663 2127<br />
Email: <a href="mailto:hatkinson@vthc.org.au">hatkinson@vthc.org.au</a></p>
<p>Kind regards John Bursill &#8211; Australian 9/11 Truth Movement</p>
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		<title>By: Julian</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Julian]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Oct 2010 22:31:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[“It couldn’t have happened unless there was participation from key elements of the American military and government and security services. I am not saying the whole lot were involved. But I believe the official story for September 11 doesn’t stack up.”

This guy has his head screwed on straight. His summary of the primary thrust of this movement is spot on. Of course we can expect this to get no mainstream attention.

I often wonder how much public support the movement can muster while still being dismissed with blatant stereotypes. Then again, we are seeing people call us crazy even when they do agree with our position, suggesting for instance that it&#039;s reasonable to assume that they let it happen but that we are all still crazy.

The transparent fear and irrationality we see coming from mainstream pundits and media figures continues to demonstrate that we hold some truth worth avoiding.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>“It couldn’t have happened unless there was participation from key elements of the American military and government and security services. I am not saying the whole lot were involved. But I believe the official story for September 11 doesn’t stack up.”</p>
<p>This guy has his head screwed on straight. His summary of the primary thrust of this movement is spot on. Of course we can expect this to get no mainstream attention.</p>
<p>I often wonder how much public support the movement can muster while still being dismissed with blatant stereotypes. Then again, we are seeing people call us crazy even when they do agree with our position, suggesting for instance that it&#8217;s reasonable to assume that they let it happen but that we are all still crazy.</p>
<p>The transparent fear and irrationality we see coming from mainstream pundits and media figures continues to demonstrate that we hold some truth worth avoiding.</p>
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		<title>By: Jon Gold</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jon Gold]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Oct 2010 21:58:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Damn it Ahmedinejad... stop saying these... hey... waaaaait a minute.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Damn it Ahmedinejad&#8230; stop saying these&#8230; hey&#8230; waaaaait a minute.</p>
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		<title>By: Marianna</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Marianna]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Oct 2010 19:48:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The  use of the backwards logic that it is an insult to those serving in Afghanistan (/Iraq), or to family members and survivors to question the official reasons given for going to war with those countries never fails to stun me.

Thank you, John, for letting us know we can respond to the article, and get in touch with Kevin B.!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The  use of the backwards logic that it is an insult to those serving in Afghanistan (/Iraq), or to family members and survivors to question the official reasons given for going to war with those countries never fails to stun me.</p>
<p>Thank you, John, for letting us know we can respond to the article, and get in touch with Kevin B.!</p>
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